Early Spring 2023 Event Map E-2 - 2nd Torpedo Squadron's Naval Surprise Attack

[Ink20]

@firehawk12
Maybe dupes aren't a problem but time and sanity surely are (I spent the same time I needed for chipping P1 to get a retreat at C with 1 heavy damaged by closing torpedo and 1 medium damaged ship as best result).

[goesto11]

@firehawk12: Dupes are not necessary for P1 & P2, just can help a bit. I'm going all in on the dupes (will start a bit later) simply because I want to get through this as soon as possible. That being said, dupes are by no means any guarantee of getting E-2H done fast. The RNG is strong with this one. Check out @Yarrik report above. 99.99% sure you have a Kitakami dupe and that's the only dupe Yarrik used. Only downside I see is using a luck modded Mogami (or possibly Yahagi - you can use Yuubari K2T here as well) for P1/P2 tag over P3 tag is availability for E-6 P4. That being said, not sure what historic bonus ships are for E-6. If you have a luck modded Mogami maybe your luck modded Mogami K2T for P3. A lot depends upon your strategy. Haven't started yet so take above with some proverbial salt.

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@silentcap: See above for a lot of this. Ultimately, I think it comes down to 2 things. (1) Is your Mogami significantly luck modded? If so, then I'd be tempted to use Mogami for P3. (2) What is needed/best used for E-6 P4 - this I don't know. Yellow tag (P1 & P2) is used for parts of E-3, E-5 & E-6 so potentially a lot of use for Mogami later with yellow tag. However, that's not the final boss of the event.

Check with others, but if your Yahagi is luck modded significantly, then you may want to use Yuubari for P1/P2 instead as Yarrik did.

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3 more questions:

(1) What are people doing in regards to support expeditions? P2 seems I don't need any support. P1 I'm assuming use Boss Shelling support - probably during chipping as well since need all the help you can get (though I hate running boss support with low % of reaching the boss node). For P3 assuming run Boss Shelling support (LD for sure, probably chipping), but not 100% sure about skipping any Node support For P3, best I can tell is that it's all about vile Node M = don't bother with Node support. Correct?

(2) For anyone who has cleared/working on P3, I've read some comments that seem to suggest that at least for chipping, LBAS of 2x fighters + 2x Toukai to Node M worth it over sending to Boss Node W simply due to Node M being so bad. Good idea?

(3) Better to go for AP at Node W (thus RIP Night Scout bonus) or screw it, go YOLO, and go for AD? I'm thinking it's better to get AP since you won't give BB Hime artillery spotting and also you will have AS (or AP at Node R) in route. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

[Ink20]

@goesto11
I chippedd P1 whitout supports with this (so I say you only need it for LD):

Kiso(32): quintorp +9, quintorp +9, minisub C +5, tslo +1
Yuubari(50): sextorp +9, sextorp +9, minisub D, searchlight +10, GFCS +2, turbine
Fletcher mk.2: 5inch+GFCS, 5inch+GFCS, ASW torp, t94AAFD +10
Mogami(48): 20.3cm(3) +10, 20.3cm(3) +9, minisub C +4, 11B(night), rk2 +10
Chiyoda: iwai F/B +10, iwamoto +10, reppu k2, f6f5 +10, rk2 +10
Kasumi(40): quad LM +10, quad LM +10, quintorp +9, tslo +4
Hatsushimo(55): triple LM +10, triple LM +10, sextorp +9, tslo +8

LBAS: nonaka, nonaka +2, ginga +1, b25 +2

diamond - vanguard - vanguard - vanguard - line ahead

r-S-S(red-T)-A(27/700)-r-r-r-C(red-T and no night battle because already in LD range)

[goesto11]

Thanks. I've got my plan (such as it is LOL) ready, but taking a break before starting up. For your LBAS, what's the shootdown like? Have to check airpower (need to find that calc again), but Tsu-elite has me a bit concerned about using LBAS w/o any AA resist. Thinking of 3x Nonaka + SM 79 bis skilled for P1.

Lastly, bit confused by the numbers in parentheses If levels, they seem low. Kiso at 32 would still be kai (CL) and not CLT.

@goesto11
I chippedd P1 whitout supports with this (so I say you only need it for LD):

Kiso(32): quintorp +9, quintorp +9, minisub C +5, tslo +1
Yuubari(50): sextorp +9, sextorp +9, minisub D, searchlight +10, GFCS +2, turbine
Fletcher mk.2: 5inch+GFCS, 5inch+GFCS, ASW torp, t94AAFD +10
Mogami(48): 20.3cm(3) +10, 20.3cm(3) +9, minisub C +4, 11B(night), rk2 +10
Chiyoda: iwai F/B +10, iwamoto +10, reppu k2, f6f5 +10, rk2 +10
Kasumi(40): quad LM +10, quad LM +10, quintorp +9, tslo +4
Hatsushimo(55): triple LM +10, triple LM +10, sextorp +9, tslo +8

LBAS: nonaka, nonaka +2, ginga +1, b25 +2

diamond - vanguard - vanguard - vanguard - line ahead

r-S-S(red-T)-A(27/700)-r-r-r-C(red-T and no night battle because already in LD range)

[Ink20]

@goesto11
It's Luck (I put it even on Mogami because I may want to use her for TCI).
Btw, Kiso kai can't equip minisub so I thought it was obvious it wasn't Lv (they are all Lv.99, though).

No problems with bombers (both LBAS ones and Iwai were never emptied but some LBAS one lost 1 rank) during chipping.

[Ken G]

@goesto11

1) For P1, only boss support during LD. No node support throughout because you'll be using vanguard for the pre-boss node.

For P2, no support needed.

For P3, I'd suggest using boss support even for chipping because chipping can also be painful (basically treat it as a final EO map boss) and boss support clearing out some of the escorts will allow your otorps to potentially aim the main fleet's cvls and wipe them out, leading the way for an effective Yamato Touch.

During LD you may also consider node support because the en-route nodes also become buffed and have the potential to taiha one of your ships. Main threat still remains at M, and the best scenario is using Atlanta and achieving AS there, as there is a slim chance of emptying the CVLs.

2) Some people have a lot of issues passing M, hence the use of LBAS sweeping at M. The guideline is if you're using Atlanta and achieving AS, you can afford to send your LBAS to the boss node instead. Chipping is not exactly a smooth operation as mentioned earlier.

3) It's possible to empty one of Victorious Hime or the CV Hime B if you have Atlanta, so AP preferred. The lesser attacks your fleet receives, the higher the chance of finishing off the boss at night.

[Ink20]

Well, another day wasted trying to reach the P1 boss with a fully sparkled fleet (reached E a couple of times at the cost of 1 or 2 LBAS waves to C, though).

[firehawk12]

I posted some updates in the locking fleet, but since it's quite important, I'll repost the part on E2 here:

Part 1,2 - Yahagi/Yuubari, Mogami, Hatsushimo, Kasumi, Verniy, CLT (dupe KTKM if possible), Fast CVL or Yukikaze dupe (if dropping CVL, Mogami becomes SPF mule while Yahagi becomes recon mule, both still on otorp duty)


Part 3 - Yamato Kai 2, Musashi (speed-boosted), 2 fast CVL (Zuihou CVL recommended), 2 CAV + Yahagi, Shigure, Yukikaze, KTKM, Mogami, Asashimo


Generally safe to lock your A-team ships in P3 (light green tag) as they will be reused in the final part of E6. The difficulty is whether to allocate Yahagi and Mogami to P3 or P1, because P1 is freaking hard.


There is a good case for using Yuubari instead of Yahagi for P1 because she also can equip anti-installation setup, and her being slow without the turbine allows you to route to P2 boss without having to commit a slow ship. Also the yellow tag will be involved in a lot of anti-installation battles in the later maps, Whether her lack of historical bonuses will hamper P1 clearing remains to be seen, though.

Take note that P3 debuff involves LBAS defence that requires high-altitude interceptors (Proto Shuusui, Shuusui and Me163B). Minimally on hard, at least 3 are needed. If you only have 2, then you need to have extremely good interceptors like the Reppuu kai series and Fw190 D-9 to make up for the loss of bonus and even then there is still a chance you may not hit the requirement.

Unfortunately, after using the calculator, it may not be possible to hit the AS requirement if you have less than 2 high-altitude interceptors, then you may need to drop to medium. Here are some of the presumed requirements for LBAS defence:

Hard: 1040 air power
Medium: 942 air power
Easy: 845 air power

TLDR: Drop to medium difficulty if you only have 2 high-altitude interceptors, unless you can squeeze in 1040 LBAS fighter power with Shuusui, Me163B and super high-end normal interceptors.

Make use of the noro air calculator to help in determining your own LBAS fighter power: https://noro6.github.io/kc-web/#/aircalc

If I have two Mogamis (one not converted yet) is it worth burning both of them here? I assume save the luck modded one for P3?
Is there a preference over Yuubari or ABKM for P1? If I use ABKM, should I use my luck modded one here or my dupe?

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@Ink20 Ah, worth committing a luck modded Mogami to part 1 then?

[Ink20]

@firehawk12
I can't tell you since I used her with DA during chipping, switched her to TCI for LD but never reached the boss.
Yuubari is better than ABKM for P2.

[goesto11]

@Ink20: Ah that makes sense. When I do that format (e.g. Kiso (32)) the number = levels (just something I copied from others way back in early Himeuta days) so brain automatically defaults to that. True, Kiso lvl 32 = Kai = CL and not K2 CLT which is why I was confused and asked. I usually write out "32 luck", but that format can work too. I'll try to remember that's your format in the future.

As for LBAS, nice to know that not all my planes will be torn to shreds. Maybe I will be a bit more aggressive at the start for my LBAA choice.

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@Ken G: Got it. Thanks.

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Anyone try to access Poi (https://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/) lately? Getting site's just gone rather than time out error (or just normal working site). Hope any downtime is temporary.